Realistic movesets by Nike The Bike for Smackdown

[nikethebike]

Realistic movesets by Nike The Bike for Smackdown Vs RAW 2006

All movesets I have made are made from moves that I've actually seen the wrestlers do. I analyze matches by watching and typing down every move the wrestlers do. When compiling the movesets I also repeat moves to try to put in moves in a way that makes them, if they do a bodyslam twice as often as a suplex in real life, also do it that way in the game.

Now these movesets also have new grapple-tie-up animations that makes them even more realistic. All movesets taken from my site before 2006-01-20 needs to be redone to be up to date because of this.


These are the wrestler movesets currently available from my site (2006-02-15):

Kurt Angle
www.BestHoganCAW.rr.nu/SDvRAW2006/Angle_moves.html
Last Update: 2006-01-20 (Added grapple animations)

Shelton Benjamin
www.BestHoganCAW.rr.nu/SDvRAW2006/Benjamin_moves.html
Last Update: 2006-01-28

Chris Benoit
www.BestHoganCAW.rr.nu/SDvRAW2006/Benoit_moves.html
Last Update: 2006-02-03

The Big Show
www.BestHoganCAW.rr.nu/SDvRAW2006/BigShow_moves.html
Last Update: 2006-01-24

Carlito
www.BestHoganCAW.rr.nu/SDvRAW2006/Carlito_moves.html
Last Update: 2006-01-21 (Updated grapple animations, updated taunts, updated strikes)

John Cena
www.BestHoganCAW.rr.nu/SDvRAW2006/Cena_moves.html
Last Update: 2006-01-25 (Changed Clothesline 22 for Clothesline 24 in Technical Grapple)

Edge
www.BestHoganCAW.rr.nu/SDvRAW2006/Edge_moves.html
Last Update: 2006-02-04

Ric Flair
www.BestHoganCAW.rr.nu/SDvRAW2006/Flair_moves.html
Last Update: 2006-01-20 (Added grapple animations)

Goldberg
www.BestHoganCAW.rr.nu/SDvRAW2006/Goldberg_moves.html
Last Update: 2006-02-14

Bret Hart
www.BestHoganCAW.rr.nu/SDvRAW2006/Bret_moves.html
Last Update: 2006-01-21 (Edited grapple animations, edited strikes, edited grapples)

Hulk Hogan
www.BestHoganCAW.rr.nu/SDvRAW2006/Hogan_moves.html
Last Update: 2006-01-20 (Added grapple animations)

Kane
www.BestHoganCAW.rr.nu/SDvRAW2006/Kane_moves.html
Last Update: 2006-01-21 (Added grapple animations, edited grapples)

Chris Masters
www.BestHoganCAW.rr.nu/SDvRAW2006/Masters_moves.html
Last Update: 2006-01-21 (Added grapple animations, edited grapples)

Shawn Michaels
www.BestHoganCAW.rr.nu/SDvRAW2006/HBK_moves.html
Last Update: 2006-01-21 (Added grapple animations, edited grapples)

Rey Mysterio
www.BestHoganCAW.rr.nu/SDvRAW2006/Rey_moves.html
Last Update: 2006-02-07

Randy Orton
www.BestHoganCAW.rr.nu/SDvRAW2006/Orton_moves.html
Last Update: 2006-02-05 (Updated every category in the moveset, almost a total remake)

Triple H
www.BestHoganCAW.rr.nu/SDvRAW2006/HHH_moves.html
Last Update: 2006-01-20 (Added grapple animations)


These movesets can be copied and posted anywhere as long as Nike The Bike gets credited for them.

Make sure to always have the LATEST version of the movesets by visiting my site:

www.BestHoganCAW.rr.nu/SDvRAW2006

At the site you can also find my Realistic A.I. Sliders that make for even more realistic matches with these movesets.

[Ravnos]

I only looked at Orton's, it's good. Except the repeated moves like Snapmare 2 and Backbreaker 14. Also I think foot choke 2 should be Mudhole Strikes because Orton is constantly punching the hell out of people. I realize 10 punch is there but like I said, he's constantly doing punch combos in different positions. Closest thing to what he does is actually the Fury Punch that's real slow & only has 4 hits, even though he does like 14 on TV.

[nikethebike]

I'd rather repeat moves than put in moves that the wrestlers don't even do. That's why there are repeated moves. It's also to reflect the moves the wrestlers do more often aswell.

[Mccc301 aka The Ricasho]

well most wrestlers do enough moves to fill the spots.

if u can't find a replacement move then u haven't study your moves good enough.

im not trying to be mean but im trying to help u trust me.

[nikethebike]

"if u can't find a replacement move then u haven't study your moves good enough."

Absolutely not. I disagree. I make it this way to reflect real life matches more. A wrestler has some moves in his moveset that he rarely ever does and some other that he executes 3-5 times as many times as others (or punches that in the WWE can make up 60-80% of the moves a wrestler does in a match). I prefer having a wrestler do a move he does often more times than a move he maybe does once every 20:th match or so. Therefor I sometimes on purpose leave out a move to have him do another move more often. This makes for a much more realistic match, believe me. This is how I make my movesets.

In Fire Pro Wrestling G, which I did movesets for earlier, it was easier to do realistic movesets since you could set actual % of chance to do each move. This way you could always get realistic matches when it came to which moves the wrestler did and you could also put in that rare move with a very low %. When I analyze my matches I usually not only type down every move but also how many times the move has been executed, to get out which moves are rare and which are "must haves".

I go for realism, not to get in every move in a wrestlers moveset. There are too many movesets out there that look like crap with wrestlers doing moves they NEVER or hardly ever do.

And also, the move categories are a pain in the ass and I prefer real moves over those that are "almost" correct.

Oh, these movesets are also updated continously as I get more and more info on wrestlers by analyzing more and more matches.

But last, if you find any move you think must be in, give me the match in which he did it so I can analyze it and add it if I think it is correct. I can't add a move from a match I haven't analyzed...

[Mccc301 aka The Ricasho]

thats your opinon

but even though a wrestler may not do the a move every match doesn't mean he doesn't do it.

i mean if they did every move every match then it would get boring.

it would be better to include the moves he does on a regular basies and the moves he doesn't due to the fact you never know what move the person will do each match.

u even did against what u said(u have randy ortons back and neckbreaker in there when he has only done it to chris benoit)

im just trying to help you not argue

[nikethebike]

mccc301 said:

thats your opinon

but even though a wrestler may not do the a move every match doesn't mean he doesn't do it.

i mean if they did every move every match then it would get boring.

it would be better to include the moves he does on a regular basies and the moves he doesn't due to the fact you never know what move the person will do each match.

u even did against what u said(u have randy ortons back and neckbreaker in there when he has only done it to chris benoit)

im just trying to help you not argue

You're wrong two times there. First to answer this:

"but even though a wrestler may not do the a move every match doesn't mean he doesn't do it.

i mean if they did every move every match then it would get boring."

I never said that a move not being in the moveset means he's not doing it. However moves done too rarely, might be left out of my movesets to make a more realistic match flow for that particular wrestler, get it? When you control the character yourself you can ofcourse control that but I want as much realism as possible when playing against the computer also.

What I said was that I choose first to put in the moves he does on a regular basis. Secondly I put in other moves. Then, which moves and how I put them in depend on how often they've done the moves in the matches I've analyzed. What I try to do is to get a realistic flow in a match. For example, if I gave Hulk Hogan all the moves he's done during his career he would have drop toe holds, russian leg sweeps, a diamond cutter and so on. But a match with this moveset wouldn't really reflect the real Hulk Hogan now would it? His matches mostly consist of punches and his trademarks. Therefor I make sure he has his trademarks and a lot of grapple punches to reflect this and spice that up with a couple of more "rare" moves that fit in the vacant positions.

Second:

"u have randy ortons back and neckbreaker in there when he has only done it to chris benoit"

Wrong. I've seen him do it on atleast three occations (where one time it actually was a bit botched). However the base analysis for Orton is actually made around that time when he beat Benoit so the moveset might be a little outdated. I am analyzing new matches all the time though and the moveset will be updated when I get in new moves.

And thanks for trying to help. Help is always appreciated.

I'm just explaining the way I do my movesets. I want a simulation where move frequency is somewhat realistic and not just a moveset that is a list of moves where the chance of doing every move is equally large.

Help me by giving me tips of matches in which he does moves I don't have in. That way I can analyze the matches and put in the new moves in my moveset info database.

[Mccc301 aka The Ricasho]

its cool i ways trying to help but wat ever foat ur boat.

as long as u make good movesets thats all that matters

[nikethebike]

mccc301 said:

its cool i ways trying to help but wat ever foat ur boat.

as long as u make good movesets thats all that matters

Thanks! And if you don't like my way of doing things, you can always fill out the doubles yourself with whatever floats YOUR boat, right! ;D

[razor]

Although this is kinda over I still would like to say that Nike The Bike is right.

"if u can't find a replacement move then u haven't study your moves good enough."


.....John Cena has something like 10 moves.......

[nikethebike]

razor said:

Although this is kinda over I still would like to say that Nike The Bike is right.

"if u can't find a replacement move then u haven't study your moves good enough."


.....John Cena has something like 10 moves.......

He's a good example indeed... Also the move groupings this year are a pain in the butt. Some guys might have only one move they actually do in a certain move group. It sucks that they grouped the moves like this.

[nikethebike]

The new Ric Flair moveset has been added.

[nikethebike]

I just added John Cena and Shawn Michaels.

[mrzer0]

Great movesets right there...

Whivh moveset is next?(A Vince McMahon moveset would be GREAT)

[nikethebike]

mrzer0 said:

Great movesets right there...

Whivh moveset is next?(A Vince McMahon moveset would be GREAT)

Nice that you like them!

I'm not really sure who'll be next. Some people wanted Triple H and I have a couple of matches with him analyzed, but I don't think I have enough to create a full moveset yet.

I might do a McMahon moveset in the future but he'll not be one of my top priorities right now.

[EricDraven]

Awesome movesets you have can you make undertakers moveset? i tried but its too hard to me

[nikethebike]

Yeah, I'll do The Undertaker. I just need to look at and analyze some of his matches. I already have more people requesting him so he'll no doubt be done when I have enough info on him to create a full moveset.

[bloodyeyes]

yeah your idea is a good one, but then, john cena's moveset would just be like 3/4 attacks...LOL

I just have one qestion, to win the preset movelists I have to win the tough enough trophy right?

to do that I have to win 10 matches with a CAW right?

I'm kinda confused here, I just have to pick a Caw and win 10 single matches in exhibition?

can I win a match and then press the restart button??

sorry to bother you guys with this...I really want the hardyz movesets...

[EricDraven]

I cant wait for undertakers moveset i wonder can you make batista moveset also? my batista movesets are all crap if you see them

[nikethebike]

I'm trying to do all the major stars and legends in the game and whatever i have time for.