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Post by scootdaddio on Dec 15, 2005 0:38:48 GMT
Ok, I finally updated it. Made a huge amount of changes thanks to Sacrafice. Probably about 70% of it is his, so I made a lot of changes. I left a few things in here and there that I had originally, but I would like to thank Sacrafice once again for contributing.
Ring In: Slide In Ring Out: Normal Taunts: Get Up! 1, Taunt Table 1, Pointing Walk, Taunt Powerful 5 Fighting Stance: Kurt Angle
Strike Attacks: Dropkick 1, Toe Kick 1, Double Axe Handle 3, Outlaw Punches 1, Strong Right Punch 1, Back Chop 4
Grapples: Clean: Scoop Slam 5, Back Chop 8, Headlock Takeover, Body Knee Strike, Arm Drag 2
Dirty: Eye Rake 1, Reverse Atomic Drop, Eye Rake 2, Eye Poke 1, Low Blow 3
Submission: Arm Lock 1, Chin Lock, Headlock 4, Abdominal Stretch 3, Guillotine 3
Technical: Northern Lights Suplex 1, Leg Trip 1, Gutbuster 2, Back Side Slam 1, Gutwrench Suplex
Power: Shoulder Thrust 1, DDT 15, Backbreaker 9, Suplex 3, Gutbuster 1
Speed: Kitchen Sink 2, Scoop Slam and Knee, Clothesline 21, Arm Twist Kick, RVD Enzuguri
Attack: Punch 1, Body Attack 1, Elbow Strike 3
Behind: Forearm Smash, Belly To Back 2, Triple H Low Kick, Back Suplex 3, Knee Breaker 2 Atomic Drop, School Boy Roll Up, Bow & Arrow 4, Backbreaker 4, Russian Leg Sweep 2
Ground: Attack: Kurt Angle Stomp, Elbow Drop 1, Elbow Drop 4
Grapple Upper: Body Kick, Mounted Punching 4, Arm Lock 2
Lower: Leg Lock 6, Punch To Groin, Elbow Drop Combo
Corner: Strike: Elbow Attack 6, Turnbuckle Clothesline 1, Knee Attack 1
Grapple: Dirty Punch, Mudhole Stomping 1, Kane Strikes, Foot Choke 1, Shoulder Thrust 2, Foot Choke 2
Behind: Forearm to Back, Illegal Pin, Toss 1, Toss into Ring Post, Turnbuckle Smash
Rope: Groggy on ropes: Running Knee Strike 1 Rebound: Clothesline 12, Elbow Drop 5, Vaulting Body Press 2 Baseball Slide
Diving: Standing: Double Axe Handle 3, RVD Diving Kick Downed: Diving Elbow, Near Elbow Drop, Knee Drop 1
Dash: Strikes: Clothesline 13, Kitchen Sink 1 Grapples: Lou Thesz Press, Neckbreaker Drop Rear: Triple H Low Kick, Bulldog 5 Ground: Double Axe Handle 5, Elbow Drop 5 Counter: Triple H Smash, Arm Lock 1, Hip Toss 1
Special: Finishers: Steam Roller, Swanton Bomb 1 Favorites: Belly to Back 2, Kitchen Sink 2, Gutbuster 2
Combo: People's Punch 1, People's Punch 1, Smash Right Punch
For his finisher, if you want the Super Last Call, just change the finisher to that. I started going with Sacrafice's idea where you do the steam roller where you end up facing the turnbuckle, and do the swanton bomb. It looks really cool.
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Post by Freaky Petey on Dec 15, 2005 1:32:58 GMT
Hey this moveset looks great any other option for a second finisher by chance?
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Post by scootdaddio on Dec 15, 2005 1:36:14 GMT
No clue. Steamroller is too weak... I don't know if he has 2 actual ones or not...
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Post by RNC on Dec 15, 2005 1:38:22 GMT
Yeah, super last call is the closest thing and the most powerful.
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Post by sacrafice on Dec 16, 2005 17:15:33 GMT
I use his steam roller. It may be a weak normal move, but it's pretty effective as a finisher. I am not saying it's mighty powerful just that it get's the job done and it looks like his real finisher. I also use his independant finisher the Kenton Bomb which is Swanton Bomb 1. What i have been doing is storing a finisher then getting another one doing the steam roller to where i jump back on my feet right at the turnbuckle and then hit the Kenton bomb for the pin. I got a table victory last night using the Kenton it was just like when "Kamakazie" Ken Anderson faced Raven in ACW last year. Freakin good stuff!!! The Super Last Call i use as a signature move. Only because so many use it as his finisher, but i went with what he actually used. This moveset is really good. Only things i would add off the top of my head is Belly to Back Suplex 2 which he does a lot in WWE & the Kitchen Sink 2 another move he likes to use a lot. I would also suggest the Lou Thesz Press since he likes to pound on his opponents. One last change i would make is use Leg Lock 6 instead of 7. He uses that move too. He used to use that as his set up to his figure 4 in the independants, but probably won't use the figure 4 in WWE for reasons i don't need to explain Thankx for giving the people a good Kennedy with the moveset!
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Post by scootdaddio on Dec 23, 2005 7:39:58 GMT
Thanks for the advice, sacrafice. You really seem to know your Kennedy/Anderson stuff. The moves I put in here were either off the top of my head, or just from the few Smackdown/Velocity matches I've seen him in. I tried to just look and say, "Would he use this move or not?" That was my process of elimination. I was hoping maybe some people would pipe in and tell me there were some moves he uses that I didn't know about. With the kitchen sink 2, which I think is from grapple, I just use the running knee strike from when the opponent is hung on the ropes. Looks good enough for me. I usually don't use the leglocks in the game anyway, because they don't pertain to his finisher. I'll try to include your changes and maybe update it here pretty soon. I have attributes and an entrance over in the wrestler CAW section that I just haven't transferred over here. On a side note to sacrafice, you really do know a lot about this guy. I looked at your Kennedy (and who doesn't look at the competition), and you rreally seemed to know what you were talking about, but you just couldn't seem to get your ducks in a row there. That by no means is an insult, because you really looked at details and stuff, but I think you may have been looking at a few things backwards or something. It was a great effort, and with a few changes, it very well could have beat mine out. It was definately a better effort than others have put out. I have seen some really crappy Kennedys out there, and that's why I made mine. The reference pic you used wasn't a good one because his head was tilted up a bit, giving the wrong impression. There were side pics of him on WWE.com that I used that were better the one you had because he wasn't making a face in them. People may have thought my CAW looked better, but you seem to be the master at everything else Kennedy, and I would love to see your moveset and whatnot. Thanks for all the advice.
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Post by Mccc301 aka The Ricasho on Dec 23, 2005 15:38:04 GMT
ur moveset is kinda missing sum stuff including his kicks.
maybe uve never seen him earlyer when he came to smackdown and his other moves and other stuff.
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Post by scootdaddio on Dec 23, 2005 18:21:35 GMT
Kicks? I gave him an enzuguri, which was the closest thing I could find to his little spin kick thing he does that looks like a dragon whip. I also gave him the kick to the body on the ground, which I have seen him do. Be more specific when you say it's missing moves. Tell me which moves are missing that you have seen and I might put them in there.
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Post by fuorf5austin316 on Dec 24, 2005 1:57:23 GMT
I saw him do a kicking move that looked exactly like the RVD Enzuiguri in the speed grapple category and if you dont want to put a speed category grapple the RVD Feint Wheel Kick 1 in the strike attacks is a good subsitute.
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Post by scootdaddio on Dec 24, 2005 8:13:22 GMT
Ok, thanks. I actually changed his moveset and got rid of the old school category and replaced it with speed. There were a lot better moves in that one, and I might try to put that in there,
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Post by sacrafice on Dec 24, 2005 20:47:19 GMT
I used a ton of referance pics, but like you said most were face action shots and didn't really have a whole lot to go on. I made changes since my last pics on here, but since yours was a little better i decided to not pursue it further. Your right though i just couldn't find that missing peice to put it all together. Only reason i even made an attempt was because there was no other even close. If i had waited another day cuz we both released ours same day i wouldn't have even posted and went with yours. It was my 1st attempt at making a CAW besides myself.
I spent about 7 hours revewing tapes from his independant and WWE matches for my moveset and mine is not near WWE level since i had to fill it in with Indy moves, but yours is pretty good. Just the Belly to back 2 was all you really needed to add.
Kennedy just didn't have enough ring time to make a perfect move set which suckx because i seen him around here so much i was really hoping he would break out and challenge for the United States title at some point in 06. Damn injuries. Anyway i would be interested in seeing you updated moveset and if you want me to pm my moveset for you to look at and maybe take some moves off of for your new version i would be more than happy to. that way you can archive the best one anyone can get.
Take care & Merry Christmas!!!
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Post by scootdaddio on Dec 24, 2005 20:54:17 GMT
That would be great. Like I said, I've only seen him a few times on Smackdown and whatnot, and I really only saw a few moves. I think your idea for a finisher is a good one. I've changed mine to that because I think it looks really good. If you could PM yours to me, I'll make a few changes, and I'll credit you for some of the changes I make. With our powers combined... Yes it does suck that he got injured. I always liked him from the start, even though he was a "bad guy". I look forward to him coming back, and hopefully, they'll use him to his full potential. Thanks again, and Merry Christmas.
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Post by Zhang Junyi on Dec 24, 2005 21:27:43 GMT
My suggestion: For Kennedy's cool jumping kick thing, use the Running Strike, Jumping Knee Attack 2.
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Post by EvolutionIV on Dec 25, 2005 6:23:43 GMT
In OVW & the Indys he did a Steamroller(From the mat not the 2nd rope, he started doing it from the 2nd rope when he hit the WWE) then the Kenton Bomb(aka Swanton Bomb) to finish his opponents off, so I gave him both of those.
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Post by scootdaddio on Jan 9, 2006 4:00:29 GMT
Ok, kids, updated it finally up top.
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Post by EvolutionIV on Jan 9, 2006 6:05:36 GMT
What moves did you add? You shoulda put them in bold, 'cause I didn't use your movelist originally.
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Post by scootdaddio on Jan 9, 2006 6:44:58 GMT
Well, I pretty much changed the whole thing around. My original moves were just stuff I came up with. Sacrafice had a movelist where he studied old tapes of Kennedy's independant work, so his was much more accurate. What I did was blend ours together so that it would be much much better. If I had put moves in bold, the whole thing would probably be bold.
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Post by EvolutionIV on Jan 9, 2006 15:13:53 GMT
Oh alright, I'll check this out then.
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Post by halooverhead on Jan 10, 2006 6:37:39 GMT
You can use Sidewalk Slam 3 (?? Katatonic or Rosey's finisher or Billy Gun's move) as a finisher, I've seen him use that a couple of times, but it's only available as a Finisher.
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Post by scootdaddio on Jan 11, 2006 4:38:06 GMT
Well, I'm trying to get it as close to WWE as possible. I know the finisher I'm using is more his independant, but it's the closest thing. If you think about it, his finisher is a swanton bomb, just with someone on his back. And, even though it's weak, the steam roller works fine, too. I don't think he's used that move in the WWE, so I'm probably gonna leave it out. You can put it in if you use this moveset at your house, though, and thanks for the advice.
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